Friday, February 23, 2018

notes re Gaby Hindliff take on Corbyn and media, help please re TV

Just retweeted a couple of comments on Gaby Hinsliff take on Corbyn. Requires a bit more space.

Seems to be just the soft end of fleet Street, maybe not as blunt as the ones that started the spy story, but heading in the same direction.

what we’ve always known: that Corbyn’s lifelong distaste for US foreign policy, together with an apparent willingness to overlook the failings of regimes that are not the US, have led to him attracting the attentions of distinctly shady characters at times.

This is some sort of balance, newspapers may have lies but they may be proof of the same sort of thing we knew anyway.

Corbyn is accused of trying to get Facebook views, then this is equated with a culture war approach. who started this?

Writing soon after Corbyn was first elected as Labour leader, Gaby Hinslif wrote that the media did not hate Corbyn, it is more "complicated".

in retrospect we could have been more curious about why those who backed him did so; we should be asking even now whether and why they still feel the same. (For every shrill social media warrior there are dozens of perfectly nice, normal people who backed Corbyn. They’re a lot more fun to ask.)

So this issue with social media has been around for a while.

My impression is that the opposition to the newspaper smear attempt has been mostly from social media. The BBC did not repeat it but I would like help on a timeline. Andrew Neil on TV about a week in ( may be wrong about this ) one tweet from Nick Robinson.

Any help on this most welcome. There should be more to come.

bit of balance

If Corbyn simply meant that, in an age when the under-40s increasingly get their news from social media, the Mail and the Sun and the Telegraph are losing what little power to sway elections they once had, then he’s right. The tectonic plates are shifting, although worryingly the far right has benefited as much as the left from the new platforms opening up.

This is the actual news angle. Surely TV and radio could comment on this? Guardian too print based to consider it.

She then continues with the culture war bit as if only social media is hate fuel, the newspaper age was entirely civil or something.

No need for evidence of Russian bots to see the links Trump and Brexit. Mostly from UK newspapers. Corbyn not reported during referendum. See other posts, Fleet Street in Europe and cyberspace blog.

Robert Peston tweeted about TV "impartiality" so Corbyn should go on ITV to answer questions. Maybe he or someone from TV could help me with some questions I have mentioned a few times.

At end of referendum lots of blame Corbyn statements, well prepared. BBC reports two heckles, tweet world reports one connected to Portland and one to Lib Dems. Seems plausible to me. No counter statement as far as I know, but no BBC apology either.

During referendum Corbyn appears on Last Gasp but Channel 4 blocks him from putting full clip on his own YouTube channel. Why? He made a persuasive case pro EU.

If anyone wants to persuade Corbyn to make a more clear cut case pro EU, why not report what he actually said during referendum?

maybe off topic.

Main point. This smear attempt failed. Social media getting stronger. TV and radio have nothing to lose longterm from reporting facts about newspapers.






Thursday, February 22, 2018

Guardian sensible but hidden away, surely TV and Radio can report on newspapers?

More turns up about Corbyn and stories in Mail Telegraph Sun Express.

Stasi file check reveals nothing at all. etc.

Surely the story is now about the newspapers?

Dan Sabbagh suggests this is about the age of social media. Labour can choose to mix it with newspapers because the video of Corbyn direct to camera is available online. this is a welcome development, Guardian print journalists being more or less reasonable on what is happening. ( probably tomorrow another horror story on how social media rots the brain)

Roy Greenslade suggests Corbyn that the statement "change is coming" is "the most explicit attack by a senior politician in modern times on the philosophical underpinning of press ownership". Seems to be the danger that Leveson 2 might happen rather than be cancelled or ignored. Oh dear.

Should Corbyn mention that press owners live abroad? Not very complicated. Channel Islands part of UK culture, what to worry about? Murdoch was Australian now lives mostly in USA. Global Britain fits in fine.

Not sure if Greenslade comments will be in print. Mostly reasonable, at least describes what newspapers are doing.

Robert Peston has tweeted about TV "impartiality" , what facts can he check out?  Most likely newspapers will stick together but eventually TV and radio may comment.